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Paul Hudson
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Posted: 19 Mar 2011

found 4 adult male adders plus a dead last years young animal, at a translocation site today in north Cumbria, Do the folks on this forum find adders present on sites where common lizards are absent? it would be interesting to know what juvenile adders would prey on in the absence of common lizard prey, all the other adder sites I know of have common lizard on site,this particular site was a clear fell area .

 

Paul Hudson


Paul Hudson
will
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Posted: 19 Mar 2011
Hi Paul

I think this was discussed a year or so back, so there's probably loads of anecdotal accounts in the thread if you can find it! - personally I've never found a viable self-sustaining population in an area without Zv for juveniles to prey on.  The odd vagrant adult, perhaps. 

Cheers

Will

Paul Hudson
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Posted: 19 Mar 2011

Hi Will

Thanks for the reply ,I found the topic 12th September 2008,

 

Cheers

Paul


Paul Hudson
GemmaJF
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Posted: 19 Mar 2011

link if anyone else is looking for this thread:

http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2691 &PN=2

Sounds like another badly thought out translocation, nothing for the juveniles to eat on the site  


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Paul Hudson
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Posted: 20 Mar 2011

I can't say for certain that the site has no Zv ,there may have been a population on the verges of the forest, or the consultants may have also introduced Zv onto the site, I will try and find out.

 


Paul Hudson
Wolfgang Wuster
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Posted: 20 Mar 2011
"My" Anglesey site has very few Zv but a pretty substantial adder population. Since it's a fen site, I suspect the juveniles may perhaps be feedng on young frogs..... any thoughts?Wolfgang Wuster40622.8750694444
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Paul Hudson
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011

Spoke to the site manager today ,and it turns out that the translocation site does have L.v .

 


Paul Hudson
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Posted: 21 Mar 2011
Well that's good news Paul, sorry for jumping to conclusions. Lets hope the Lv population is big enough to sustain being eaten by their new chums!
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Paul Hudson
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Posted: 22 Mar 2011

I must say I was really chuffed to find out it did have Lv!

 

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Paul Hudson

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